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== TemplateStyles breakage ==

@[[User:Arbitrarily0|Arbitrarily0]] it looks like something broke here, I happened to notice that the template {{tl|ZagrebCity-geo-stub}} started rendering the error:

: {{tq|Page Template:Asbox/styles.css has no content.}}

Please fix or revert, this is very visible. --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 11:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:I just reverted my move of [[Template:Asbox/styles.css]]. Is that what the problem was? [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 11:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{u|Joy}}, it looks like its fixed now. The problem was either that .css pages can't be redirected, or if they can I don't know how. [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 11:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{u|Arbitrarily0}} See below. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 11:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{u|Peter coxhead}}, regardind {{u|Nahian}}'s comment below: Is further action needed, since I've already reverted the move of [[Template:Article stub box/styles.css]]? [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 11:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Arbitrarily0}} It all works at present, but it may be possible to change the name of the template if my comment below is correct. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 11:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

=== Request for update ===

Please, replace [[:Template:Asbox/styles.css]] with [[:Template:Article stub box/styles.css]] in this module. <span style="padding:1px 6px;background:#333;color:#EEE;border-radius:5px 0px 0px 5px">Vengeance</span>[[User talk:Nahian|<span style="padding:1px 5px;background:#EEE;color:#333;border-radius:0px 5px 5px 0px"><small>Talk</small></span>]] 11:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:When [[:Template:Asbox/styles.css]] was moved to [[:Template:Article stub box/styles.css]], the breakage was, as far as I can tell, because [[Module:Article stub box]] references 'Asbox/styles.css' at line 14, but there was no redirect. The module also references 'Template:Asbox' at line 13, but [[:Template:Asbox]] is a redirect, and it seems to be ok. So perhaps if the move left a redirect, and then the module was updated, it would all work? Or maybe .css pages can't be redirected? [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 11:33, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you, {{u|Peter coxhead}}. Yes, I'm just not sure if .css pages can be redirected. Of course, we could do a "manual redirect" by moving the ''content'' of Asbox/styles.css to the new title (and changing its referent in [[Module:Article stub box]] accordingly). But if it's okay with you, let's wait for someone else's opinion here, just to avoid the risking of things breaking again. [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 11:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@Arbitrarily0 I definitely agree to wait! But I do think that duplicating the content to the new title and then updating the module should work. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 11:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::CSS pages can be redirected, but the technique is completely different. You would use [//www.w3.org/TR/css-cascade-3/#at-import the <code>@import</code> rule]. But please do not carry out cut-and-paste moves, even for CSS pages, see [[WP:CUTPASTE]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I've sorted this. Job queue will take a few days for all of this to be corrected, but issues go away on (null) edit. While it is possible to futz with where a TemplateStyles page is by moving it by hand and then doing a [[WP:History merge]], I have rarely if ever had issues with just moving them and making sure the relevant invoking module/template is correct. Anyway, the TemplateStyles page should have been living under the module name, so I also corrected the final location. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 21:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:Thank you, {{u|Izno}}! [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 16:44, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

== Broken ==
{{ping|Peter coxhead|Arbitrarily0}} The entire asbox functionality seems to be broken now; no thumbnail images, no subcategories, just the same message for every template. Could this be the result of the changes above? &mdash; [[User:The Anome|The Anome]] ([[User talk:The Anome|talk]]) 12:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:It must be because of the move. Looking into it now. [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 12:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Arbitrarily0|Arbitrarily0]] looks like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Article_stub_box&diff=prev&oldid=1271057696 this update of top args] in the module was also necessary. I tagged some more instances with comments in case they get normalized later. --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 12:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::You beat me to it, {{u|Joy}} (edit conflict!). Great work. I suspect it is all working properly now. [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 12:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Thank you - that seems to have fixed it. &mdash; [[User:The Anome|The Anome]] ([[User talk:The Anome|talk]]) 12:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

== Vertical space ==

Isn't it excessive? See, e.g., [[Dynamics_(mechanics)#See_also]]. [[User:Fgnievinski|fgnievinski]] ([[User talk:Fgnievinski|talk]]) 00:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Fgnievinski}} This is [[Template talk:Article stub box#CSS edit request]] following on from [[Wikipedia talk:Stub#Replace double-blank-line method with CSS]]. You get the same gap whether you precede the stub template with one, two or three blank lines - two was the recommendation at [[WP:STUBSPACING]] until a {{diff|Wikipedia:Stub|prev|1263932985|couple of months ago}}. But also per WP:STUBSPACING, the tag is in the wrong place anyway, which I have {{diff|Dynamics (mechanics)|next|1277186924|fixed}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 11:19, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for the pointers. Above it was said:
::: the space now above the template is IMHO generally excessive to the need
:::: I'm inclined to agree with you that the current spacing is somewhat excessive, but a separate discussion would be needed to form consensus to change that.
::With that, it's three people pointing out the CSS spacing is excessive: me, @[[User:DocWatson42|docwatson42]], and @[[User:Mr. Starfleet Command]]. I suspect the issue arose because stub templates were not always transcluded preceded by two blank lines. [[User:Fgnievinski|fgnievinski]] ([[User talk:Fgnievinski|talk]]) 17:07, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
:::I also agree that the spacing is excessive. [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 22:00, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
::::The spaciing is the same as it had been before, provided that you had followed the placement guidelines and used two blank lines between the categories and the stub template. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:26, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::And yet it's still perceived as excessive. Can we at least agree on how many complaints it's necessary to action a change? Ten people would seem a reasonable number. [[User:Fgnievinski|fgnievinski]] ([[User talk:Fgnievinski|talk]]) 12:11, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

== CSS spacing does not work when the Coord template precedes categories ==

See [[Special:Permalink/1308943116]] for example. When the item immediately preceding the categories is the <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;</span>[[Template:Coord|Coord]]<span class="nowrap">&#125;&#125;</span> template, the extra vertical spacing does not show. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] ([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]]) 14:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:The CSS that adds the vertical spacing is set up so it doesn't apply if the stub box is immediately preceded by an HTML {{tag|p|o}} element (paragraph), so that it doesn't produce too much space in cases where the old method is still used (two blank lines before the stub tag, which creates a blank paragraph). Apparently, the {{tl|Coord}} template generates a paragraph.
:Depending on how many pages still use the old method, we might be able to remove the <code>:not(p)</code> from the CSS. That would fix cases like these, but would double the space on pages still using the old method. But I have no idea how many pages still need to be fixed in that way. Does anyone else have input on this matter? [[User:Mr. Starfleet Command|Mr. Starfleet Command]] ([[Special:TalkPage/User:Mr. Starfleet Command|talk]]) 00:05, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::A vast majority of pages probably still have the double spaces. This was the first time I noticed one being removed. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] ([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]]) 13:37, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 13 January 2026 ==

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I suggest changing {{red|You can help Wikipedia by expanding it}} to {{green|You can help Wikipedia by adding missing information}} or something similar. Several similar templates such as {{tl|Incomplete list}} and formerly {{tl|Expand article}} have had its phrasing changed to not include the word "expand", as this has the potential of coming off as inappropriate on articles about dark and violent topics (which the public once saw as humorous, as documented on [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-can-help-by-expanding-it this K.Y.M. article]). It also more clearly explains what we wish the reader to do. [[User:Rose Abrams|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Rose Abrams</span>]] ([[User talk:Rose Abrams|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Rose Abrams|C]] [[Special:Log/Rose Abrams|L]]) 09:13, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
:{{complete2}}. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|''welcome!'']]&nbsp;–&nbsp;<small>13:20, 14 January 2026 (UTC)</small>